tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post1167501824574591682..comments2023-06-04T10:35:34.543-04:00Comments on Linux Advocates: The Road Not Well Traveled: Two Developers Think Outside the BoxUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post-47652760507556514132013-04-17T09:25:05.371-04:002013-04-17T09:25:05.371-04:00This does a good job of it: http://www.dedoimedo.c...This does a good job of it: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-18-kde.html No need to go any deeper than that.Fewthttp://www.fuduntu.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post-63118009371321295702013-04-17T09:17:17.220-04:002013-04-17T09:17:17.220-04:00Perhaps you can at some refine and elaborate as to...Perhaps you can at some refine and elaborate as to why you feel F18 is 'a mess'. Thanks for all that you have done Andrew.Dietrichhttp://dtschmitz.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post-77425616978964702742013-04-17T07:31:56.023-04:002013-04-17T07:31:56.023-04:00There is no "easy" thing to do, and Fedo...There is no "easy" thing to do, and Fedora 18 is a mess. I spent some time evaluating the possibility of re-basing on F18 a few months ago, and decided against it.Fewthttp://www.fuduntu.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post-43457176472330617872013-04-17T02:02:02.606-04:002013-04-17T02:02:02.606-04:00Enjoying Aaron Seigo's input here too. Though ...Enjoying Aaron Seigo's input here too. Though I have a different perspective to offer in regards to Xfce. It may suffer from "developer retention", but one thing I really like about Xfce (and the reason why I use it as the base desktop environment for my company's desktop solutions -> http://www.microlinux.fr/desktop_linux.php) is the fact that development is slow and perennial and only happens in small incremental steps. I do have a sandbox PC here (running Slackware like all machines) where I install the latest and greatest KDE (4.8.5, 4.9.5, 4.10.0, 4.10.1, etc.) out of curiosity, but more often than not I want to yell at the KDE developers: a) "Slow down, please!" b) "Please fix some basic bugs! My users don't want to have to hit F5 to be able to see a new file on their desktop!"Kiki Novakhttp://www.facebook.com/microlinuxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post-32421528190268487412013-04-16T10:53:18.176-04:002013-04-16T10:53:18.176-04:00Interesting. Thanks! And yes KDE is, as far as I ...Interesting. Thanks! And yes KDE is, as far as I am concerned, the best Desktop GUI, bar none.Dietrichhttp://dtschmitz.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post-80472110912353051442013-04-16T10:48:27.354-04:002013-04-16T10:48:27.354-04:00Did I miss something? It took a while but MATE wa...Did I miss something? It took a while but MATE was born. Is the general consensus that MATE has no future so none of the distros who committed Harakiri because of GNOME 2 are interested in it and must make something independent of it?<br /><br />I'd say the easiest thing for Fuduntu to do would be to remix Fedora 18 (or the upcoming 19) with MATE as the default and then customize it how they see fit. It seems to work fine in a systemd-based environment even along side all of the other desktop environments (including GNOME 3, Cinnamon, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE) on the same system.<br /><br />If not that, then how about GNOME 3.8.x and the gnome-classic extensions?<br /><br />As for me, I'm a long time KDE user but I do use other environments frequently under different situations.Scott Dowdlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post-9645979023250213082013-04-16T09:08:50.422-04:002013-04-16T09:08:50.422-04:00I stand corrected then. My misunderstanding. Wil...I stand corrected then. My misunderstanding. Will update the story with your comment. Thank you.Dietrichhttp://dtschmitz.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post-55253663442260320872013-04-16T08:29:52.508-04:002013-04-16T08:29:52.508-04:00Dietrich what is your source that supports that Ci...Dietrich what is your source that supports that Cinnarch is no more because of systemd? Cinnarch is no more because of how Cinnamon lags GNOME development. Since Cinnarch was based on Arch and Arch has shipped systemd for sometime I don't think that was the factor.Michael Dinonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post-82464869140759164072013-04-15T20:49:57.929-04:002013-04-15T20:49:57.929-04:00Im hoping all is not lost as yet obapps,obmenu,obk...Im hoping all is not lost as yet obapps,obmenu,obkey,lxappearance,obtheme,obconf,Arandr,drun,tint2,nitrogen, these 10 small packages give a wonderful GUI, (scrot can be added to obmenu for screencapturing) i spose a launcher piedock or idock should be added too. Not everyone is going to like it but for those who liked the Gnome2, lxde,xfce stay out of my way look ^ can be made to look and perform similar (if not better), of course thats just the GUI on top of X11, what goes underneath i don't know, but i do know dependecies of above are very minimal as i've installed a few bare bones arch systems and OB is GUI of choice (xmonad not quite for the mainstream). Screenshots of Crunchbang or Archbang will give a general idea of the layout. Ive been saying for some time window managers should be the way forward i hope im right. Best of luck to Ikey & Aaron in their endevours.Cirrus McMinornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5447608397823343035.post-88263052732733407862013-04-15T20:27:19.935-04:002013-04-15T20:27:19.935-04:00On a side note, I hate how the first thing KDE lov...On a side note, I hate how the first thing KDE lovers do is shove Qt at people. I like Qt, honestly, but it can be annoying when it's pushed as the answer to every problem.Roland Taylorhttp://2buntu.comnoreply@blogger.com